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Proposition 8

In 2008, California voters approved proposition 8 which defined marriage as between a man and a woman.

The vote was almost immediately challenged, and went to the California Supreme Court, which ruled against the vote, but put a “stay” on allowing gay marriages until the issue was completely, legally resolved.

Proposition 8 supporters brought their case to the Supreme Court, and in December 2012, the highest court in the land decided to take up the issue.

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No SCOTUS Ruling on Prop 8 Yet: What It Means

Paul Robins and Bethany Crouch talk to David Cohen with Drexel University. They discuss the latest on Prop 8.

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The Supreme Court of the United States did not rule on Proposition 8 Monday.

Many expect a decision this week, which could come as early as Thursday when the Supreme Court meets again.

Stay tuned to FOX40 and FOX40.com for the latest on Proposition 8, and download our app to get an alert as soon as a decision is handed down.

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Whether dressed in full drag, wearing bright colors or not, thousands showed their support for the LGBT community at the 29th annual Pride Parade and Festival.

“It is one day we can set aside for victory over all those challenges,” said Hitesh Bussie.

After being imprisoned in India for nearly a decade for being involved in homosexual acts, Bussie says the time for equality is now.

“If 10 of my straight friends could actually fall in love and get married right now if they want too, I can’t and that is not okay. Not being able to marry the one I love is annoying for me,” said Bussie.

The festival near the Capitol comes just days before the U.S. Supreme Court will weigh in on Proposition 8, which bans same sex marriage in California.

The ruling, which could come as soon as Monday, would be the first time the U.S. Supreme Court has made a decision on same sex marriages.

If Proposition 8 is deemed unconstitutional the question remains as to whether the ruling will only apply to California or the country as a whole.

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Sacramento’s LGBT community is gearing up for its annual Gay Pride Celebration, and this year’s event is drawing some major celebrities.

“We have Frenchie Davis who’s been on ‘The Voice,’ she’s been on Broadway she’s a lesbian. She’s a great female singer,” said Entertainment Director, Jonathan Cameron.

Though the LGBT community is excited about their event, most of them can’t get their minds off of the looming Supreme Court decision on Prop 8 which could come as early as Monday.

“Isn’t awesome that we’re going to hear a decision about this soon?” said Steven Perez.

Perez and Dennis Azevedo, his partner of 26 years, are legally married – one couple that took advantage of a very small window of opportunity.

“I got married in 2008 and I think everyone else should have the opportunity as well. It’s only right,” said Perez.

The two also feel sorry for their friends who can’t get married.

“That sucks I can only think about women not having the right to vote until like 1909 and then interracial marriages like the 1960s,” said Perez. The couple says the marriage ban affects so many people on so many levels.

“It’s unfair, blatantly unfair,” said Michael Coleman.

“The challenge is more than just being married it’s being able to kiss and hug in public. Kissing goodbye at the airport when I dropped him off and he’s flying away somewhere and you know, you never know if he’s gonna come back,” said Dennis Azevedo.

Whether same sex marriage is legalized or not, one man says they still need to celebrate who they are.

“Every group struggles. This is our turn to struggle and I think this will be announcement in California that has been set with gay rights,” said Cameron.

Sacramento’s Gay Pride Celebration begins with a parade at 11 a.m. and continues with a festival at the Capitol Mall until 5 p.m.

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Supporters of same-sex marriage in Sacramento were out in force Tuesday, the same day the issue was being discussed in the United States Supreme Court in Washington.

“It’s been people from all across the stratosphere. Older people, younger people. Straight couples, couples who have been together for a very long time. It’s just been a wonderful day,” gay rights supporter Ken Pierce said, of a rally and candlelight vigil in front of the Sacramento Federal Courthouse on Tuesday.

There were hundreds at its peak, showing their support of gay marriage and all that would come with it.

Marja Hunt is lesbian. She was there with her two kids and partner.

“If I decide to have another child with my partner, I’d like for her to be able to have rights. And as a parent, for us to be able to get married and be considered legal in this state,” Hunt said.

It’s the task the U.S. Supreme Court must rule on –whether Proposition 8—-a state-ban on same-sex marriage in California – is Constitutional.

“The supreme court justices think about their legacy. And I think most of them want to be on the right side of history because this civil rights movement is something huge,” said Ellen Pontac, who is married to Shelly Bailes.

Bailes and Pontac married in 2008, but have been a couple the past 39 years.

They are hopeful that other gay and lesbian couples will have their chance to marry legally.

“I’m not fighting for our marriage. I’m fighting for equality for everybody and I think everybody deserves that equality,” Bailes added. ”And I will fight until we get it. And as far as I’m concerned, I can see the finish line.”

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As partisans argued pointedly over same-sex marriage outside the U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesday, justices inside hinted at their disparate views on the hot-button issue — with some of them questioning whether they should consider the case at all.

What’s at stake, potentially, is whether the court extends a sweeping constitutional right for gays and lesbians to wed in all 50 states. The justices kicked off oral arguments on two different but related cases that could fundamentally alter how American law treats marriage.

“This was a deeply divided Supreme Court, and a court that seemed almost to be groping for an answer here,” said CNN Senior Legal Analyst Jeffrey Toobin after following 80 minutes of arguments.

He was among those who followed the debate over California’s Proposition 8, which bans same-sex marriage. Voters approved the proposal 52% to 48% in November 2008, less than six months after the state Supreme Court ruled marriage is a fundamental right that must be extended to same-sex couples.

The overriding legal question in the California case, Hollingsworth v. Perry (12-144), is whether the Constitution’s 14th Amendment guarantee of equal protection under the law prevents states from defining marriage as that state has.

From their questioning, it appeared evident how a few of the justices were leaning.

Four of the more liberal justices seemed at least open to the idea that same-sex marriage should be allowed in California. Three of the more conservative justices seemed aligned with the view that it should only be for a man and a woman, and it’s likely they’d be joined by Justice Clarence Thomas, who doesn’t speak at arguments.

That could leave Justice Anthony Kennedy as, has often been the case, the swing vote.

He was among those who weighed in on whether the advocacy group appointed to defend the initiative has standing to argue the case.

While admitting the law’s defenders are “not just any citizens,” Kennedy raised concerns about whether just the possibility of same-sex marriage was enough to establish they had suffered harm — a key jurisdictional hurdle allowing them to appeal in the first place.

Justice Sonia Sotomayor said it is the state’s responsibility — through its elected leaders — to defend laws in court, and that private individuals could not establish “how their injury was separate from everyone else.”

If the court dismisses the appeal on the grounds its defenders don’t have the standing to defend the case in court, it may mean lower federal court rulings declaring the proposition unconstitutional would stand.

But it wouldn’t allow for a broader, final rule outlining the power of states to say who can or can’t get married.

Decisions on California, DOMA case expected in June

The justices did probe that broader legal question at times, including an exchange between pro-Proposition 8 attorney Charles Cooper and Justice Elena Kagan.

“The concern is that redefining marriage as a genderless institution will sever its abiding connection to its historic traditional procreative purposes, and it will … refocus the purpose of marriage and the definition of marriage away from the raising of children and to the emotional needs and desires … of adult couples,” Cooper argued.

To which Kagan said: “Mr. Cooper, suppose a state said that, because ‘we think that the focus of marriage really should be on procreation, we are not going to give marriage licenses anymore to any couple where both people are over the age of 55.’ Would that be constitutional?”

“No, your honor, it would not be constitutional,” Cooper replied.

Tuesday’s hearing was the first of back-to-back sessions on same-sex marriage laws.

The court will listen to arguments on Wednesday on U.S. v. Windsor, a separate challenge to the federal Defense of Marriage Act, that — like the California law — defines marriage as between a man and a woman.

That 1996 law prevents legally married same-sex couples from getting federal benefits and privileges, like tax breaks and survivor benefits, that are extended to opposite-sex couples.

The court is unlikely to announce its decisions on both matters until June.

Andrew Pugno, general counsel for the Protect Marriage Coalition, the group defending Proposition 8, said its attorney had “credibly presented the winning case for marriage.”

“We think the hearing went very well,” he told reporters.

Attorneys representing the two couples seeking to overturn Proposition 8, meanwhile, said they couldn’t tell how the court would rule.

“We are confident where the American people are going with this,” said Theodore Olson. “We don’t know for sure what the United States Supreme Court is going to do, but we’re very, very grateful they listened, they heard, they asked hard questions, and there’s no denying where the right is.”

Spirited rallies on both sides of debate

One of the plaintiffs — Paul Katami and Jeff Zarrillo, a Burbank, California, couple who want to marry but can’t because of Proposition 8 — contend the state is discriminating against them because of their sexuality.

“This is about our freedom and our liberty,” Katami said. “We are not trying to topple marriage. We are not trying to redefine marriage. What we are trying to say is that equality is the backbone of our country.”

This view was echoed by fellow same-sex marriage supporters, who rallied outside the court with the hope that the justices would eventually issue a broad ruling to strike down bans nationwide.

“We are not asking for anything more than our neighbors, friends and family, but certainly expect no less,” said Todd Bluntworth, who spoke with his husband and their two children.

California Attorney General Kamala Harris, who argued against Proposition 8, said voter-approved marriage bans “are simply unconstitutional.”

The Supreme Court has ruled more than a dozen times that marriage is a fundamental right, “and as it relates to a fundamental right, the court will hold that under the highest level of scrutiny,” Harris said.

But opponents who rallied nearby — some of them carrying signs reading, “Kids do best with a mom & dad” — urged the court to keep out of the issue and leave the decision to states.

“If you want to get married, go to one of the states that allows gay marriage,” said Carl Boyd Jr., a conservative Nashville talk-show host. “Stop trying to force your agenda down our throats. Quit trying to bully the American people with the homosexual agenda.”

Patchwork state laws

The court could historically alter how the law treats marriage, striking down laws across the country banning same-sex marriage and matching an apparent cultural shift toward acceptance of same-sex couples.

Or it could leave the current patchwork of state laws in place, choosing to let state legislatures and state courts sort it all out.

Forty-one states now forbid same-sex marriage, although nine of them allow civil partnerships. Nine other states allow same-sex marriage, and about 120,000 same-sex couples have gotten married, according to estimates.

California’s ban seems to run counter to polls that show rising support overall for same-sex marriage.

A CNN/ORC International poll released on Monday found 53% of Americans now support same-sex marriage, up from 40% in 2007. As to how the federal government should handle the issue — the subject of Wednesday’s hearing — another CNN/ORC International poll out Tuesday found 56% of the public feels the federal government should also legally recognize same-sex marriages.

The Justice Department will argue against the Defense of Marriage Act, a federal law, on Wednesday.

This comes as President Barack Obama has changed positions on same-sex marriage over his political career. Now fully supportive, he’s said would strike down California’s law if he sat on the Supreme Court.

Other prominent politicians have voiced timely opinions in recent weeks, indicating the matter’s importance in 21st century American politics.

Hillary Clinton, the former secretary of state and possible 2016 Democratic presidential candidate, publicly backed same-sex marriage earlier this month.

The Republican party has historically backed efforts to define marriage as only between a man and a woman. But there’s been notable movement of late among Republicans, including Sen. Rob Portman’s recent shift to support same-sex marriage, which he made two years after his son revealed to him that he is gay.

“There is no putting this genie back in the bottle. It is undeniable. The shift is here, and we’re not going back,” Republican strategist and CNN contributor Ana Navarro said Sunday.

Bill Mears reported and wrote from Washington, Michael Pearson reported and wrote from Atlanta; CNN’s Joe Johns, Alan Duke and Samira Jafari contributed to this report.

Bill Mears reported and wrote from Washington, Michael Pearson reported and wrote from Atlanta; CNN’s Joe Johns, Alan Duke and Samira Jafari contributed to this report.

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Paul and Bethany sit down with local “No on 8″ leaders as the Supreme Court reviews the case today.

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03/26/13

Prop 8 Debate: For Prop 8

Paul Robins and Bethany Crouch talk to Randy Thomasson from savecalifornia.com.

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Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy questioned Tuesday whether the issue of same-sex marriage was properly before the court.

The high court heard an hour and 20 minutes of oral arguments about California’s Proposition 8 Tuesday morning, which bans same-sex marriage.

According to CNN’s legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin, Justices Scalia and Alito asked questions like “We don’t know the effects of same sex parenting on children, so why don’t we wait and let the states go experiment? Why do we, the Supreme Court, have to get involved in this process?”

The Justices also seemed hesitant to have the high court “imposing same sex marriage,” said Toobin.

A decision is not expected until June.

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